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Friday, 31 October 2008

Rolling Election Results Update (1)

The first set of election results have been announced by Justice Mumba :

Kabwe central - PF
Chingola central - PF
Nchanga - PF
Chimwemwe - PF
Kanfinsa - PF
Kwacha - PF
Nkana - PF
Wusakile - PF
Luaynsha -PF
Roan - PF
Kankoyo - PF
Kantashi - PF
Mufulira - PF
Chifubu - PF
Chipata central - MMD
Petauke - MMD
Kabwata - PF (large margin)
Lusaka Central - PF
Itezhi tezhi - UPND

National totals to the nearest thousand :
HH (UPND) - 26,000
RB (MMD) - 96,000
Sata (PF) - 189,000

A few early notes, and its still very early :

The Northern and Central Provinces will be the battleground provinces. Northern was evenly shared last time, and central went strongly to Levy. This time round it appears that Northern is going significantly to Sata. Central is competitive between RB and Sata.

The outcome will depend largely on the DISTRIBUTION of the votes. The indications so far is that the turn out has been generally low in rural areas relative to urban areas.


Update :

This first ECZ online document on the 2008 results is revealing in terms of turn between rural and urban areas.

45 comments:

  1. Sata is leading with 38/150 Constituencies declared.
    http://www.zambiaelections.org/

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  2. Thank you! I have uploaded it!

    I'll keep these rolling updates to the "offical" tally!

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  3. It would be interesting to find out who is behind this website. I suspect Ati Rigging Zambia set it up. The new voting system will make rigging impossible. Similar system prevented Mugabe from rigging the March Election.


    The PANEL

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  4. Thank you for this, pliz keep us informed with every latest update. Am keeping my computer logged on to this website the whole day. viva zambian democracy!

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  5. also watch for the 2 provinces that went to HH last time around. The MMD could be pretty competitive there this time around

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  6. With our current constitution the president seemingly has too much power. The presidential aspirants we have have said nothing about relinquishing some of these powers. This worries me

    EM

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  7. awe this time let God intervene.Amen!

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  8. CF,

    The latest ECZ online document is quite revealing in that respect.

    What we have is much lower turnouts in rural areas, relative to urban areas. That does not bode well for MMD or UPND...

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  9. I would like to ask why the results are taking long to be annouced. please can you please update us with the latest (12:00hrs) especially- northwestern, western and Chipata.

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  10. Keep up the good work. With such intiatives as this one, Zambia is definitely headed in the right direction as far as Democracy is concerned.

    Gideon

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  11. God have your way...........

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  12. These elections are a defining moment for Zambia. Do we continue being stagnant in a one-party state in a modern world as was the case in the UNIP era or we usher in a new & vibrant party to take us forward? The latter sounds useful & seems likely to happen this time around. Good luck Zambians.

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  13. thanks for this initiative, zambia has really waken up this time around. keep up the good work

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  14. thanx 4 the update your websit is helping us in rural eastern know were the wind is blowing thak you

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  15. I wonder what will happen to Malawi-Zambia relations when and if Sata wins. He was deported from Malawi, remember. I will be watching.

    Mnyasa.

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  16. Malawi is a nice country though sata was deported. This was the work of our internal politics which enfluenced the malawian govt. to act like that. I personaly l not seeing any problem if sat won these election. He knew who did that and he is one person who does not loose heart. Infact he call a sped a spend.

    vumbwe

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  17. You easterners also you a very big let down always.You only realise when it too let to think how this wind is blowing. I am from the east but too much village ideas that end. Mukaziyendaku mu town like Lusaka and copperbelt see how politics are played.

    Vumbwe.

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  18. sata is unstoppable

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  19. awe easterners its true you always let the other part of the country's thinking why you go opposite. You people are where the sun raises so thinking should be fast than the rest of the country.

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  20. Overtaking this results in politics is way gone. Nabaya bye bye MMD (they went)

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  21. a snake will not lead a country. But God will intervain.

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  22. Zambia is a democratic and a Christian nation that stand on the peace, love not violence. People should just accept the results. We are praying in Jesus name that the right person will represent Zambia, not wat is happening in Congo or Zimbabwe. No tribalisim leadership. We will stop it right now through the Cross by prayer. Everything will change you will see soon. Sata is tribalist. He represents only Bemba all the time he address his rallies. Someone else will win.

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  23. so whats the update pips

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  24. Totals (73/150 Constituencies)



    PF 491,033 47%
    MMD 344,356 33%
    UPND 193,361 19%
    HP 8,429 1%
    Void 3,767 0%
    *Please note that these are RAW results coming from the polling stations. They are yet to be verified.

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  25. thnaks for helping with the updates. We will see who will win.

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  26. I pray the the right person will win. The person who will substantially increase growth and prosperity in Zambia.
    I hope Sata continues to lead!
    Viva democracy!

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  27. Please this is what we need, it is bad to just see that someone has won without really knowing how.
    RB THIS TIME AROUND SHOULD NOT EVEN THINK OF GOING BACK TO PLOT ONE EVEN DURING HIS ACTING HE HAS BEEN TOOTHLESS HE CAN NOT BE LIKE MWANAWASA

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  28. Thanks for the updates. You have kept me home away from home. We are pioneers of democracy and multi-partism IN AFRICA (A MODEL). Its yet another test of leadership especially at the time Zimbabwe is a centre of controversy. Can we again show them? Yes we can but only when we value GOOD GOVERNANCE.

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  29. The final result is going to be so close - a lot of people (indeed most people!) are going to be disappointed whatever happens. The system is not perfect, but hopefully the new constitution will incorporate all the lessons we are learning and 50%+1 will be required next time around. Let us just hope the result will be respected by all and Zambia can continue to be a beacon of stability in challenging times.

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  30. It is interesting the delays African countries usually have in announcing results. Is it the system? If so, why cant we learn and put in place measures? Delays relate directly to trust. Would a person be wrong to suppose an existing cooking pot for results before they are served? It has happened before. Is it incapacity by ECZ to conduct post-election evaluation? Is it incapacity to implement evaluation recommendations? Lets get better. Its not a mistake to make a mistake but a mistake to repeat it. Concerns were raised before in 2006 and the ECZ has shown its DEFIANCE again. Why does it exist then? Whose objective do they serve if not for Zambians and to be a vehicle of democracy. Definately under such delays any loser, OPPOSITION OR RULING WILL NOT TRUST THEM.

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  31. Surely if you know Zambia well, the problem is communication infrastructure. You do not expect typical rural areas to have all results in good time. As you can see it has been easy to get results in town. The problem in Zambia is that we like complaining/accusing others without looking at the problems level headed. We have so much mistrust such that we see rigging in every direction even when there is no evidence. Judge Florence Mumba is doing a good job but we want to accuse her for nothing. It is difficult to rig elections in Zambia.

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  32. The next government should put in place measures to have a smooth flow of procedures aswell as improve communication links in remote areas asap. It should not be a last minute affair; this will instill trust among Zambians and other stakeholders in terms of ruling parties manupulating results.The electoral commission has been lagging behind for a long time, and systems have to improve-less talk and more action.

    Free speech is another concern for a young democracy like Zambia. Hope Zambians have made the right choice and not fattening the same individuals, whilst tightening there belts. You never know how poor Zambians are until you step on foreign soil.
    This is your time my fellow Zambians. Go my beloved country, go.

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  33. ME A ZAMBIAN AND PROUD1 November 2008 at 01:51

    Sata is hard working remeber days of UNIP when he changed thing around we need a man like him tough not a puppet he is for the people and he is not a tribelist....PAWATO.....WATO..........

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  34. a fair representation of the people can not come from PF because apart from the fact that PF has no direction it is a one man party who tries to answer to every call just he could win elections.it will never happen, he will not win this election... a dictator he is and leads a party with no structures at all. question is, how did he even manage to stand in election? shibukeni(wakeup) and do what is best for zambia.

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  35. Zambians you need to improve on your English literacy, wrong spellings and irritating gramma.
    Thats sad.Dont you have Colleges and Universities?
    You must learn from Zimbabweans.They are smart and intelligent even though their economy is in Shambles....Zambia will follow suit with this ignoramus called Sata....hapana munhu apa

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  36. this is not the first we are having elections.by now we should be experienced on how elections are rigged and come up with solutions. y the delay of results. we smell a fish.the elections were peaceful but not fair.not everyone was accorded the chance to vote. e. g c.b.u and unza students.if mmd wins they won't continue the fight of corruption coz they've corrupted the electerol process. y is'nt anyone doing anything about already marked ballot papers.i would'nt be surprised if people protested.zambians are not stupid

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  37. ME A ZAMBIAN AND PROUD; You spelt 'PABWATO' WRONG...

    ..Me, i shudder to think what will become of Zambia

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  38. John Cena's English is typically Zimbabwean: assumed right but see the errors in spellings and grammar. By the way, is it 'Chinena' or 'Cena'? which ever way this 'chinena' or 'Cena' stinks big time.

    Listen John, if Zimbabweans were smart and intelligent as you purport, they would not have ruined their economy as they have done, always begging for neighbours to solve very simple problems. Worse, Cena and your Zimbabwean puppets are as ungrateful as you were after independence in 1980 to Zambians. In fact analysts have argued that if fate can ever punish a people for being ungrateful to the Zambians who kept them in Mandevu and Mugabe himself at Chalimbana, then Zimbabweans have harvested what they sowed in the xenophobic attacks of South Africa. They are rude even as they spend sleepless nights in the empty corridors of Lusaka city centre all because Mugabe squandered their money in the hope that Britain will give him some more money to blow up! Zimbabweans smell the coffee. Stop living on promissory notes. How careless and irresponsible! Why can't you for once begin to think logically? Vote Mugabe out. Be certain of what it is you want and quit your excitement of hoping that Zambia will fall like you.

    Look, John, you cannot compare Sata to any feeble brains that have been produced in Zimbabwe. We simply do not belong to the same class of democracy and thinking. First Zimbabweans are children in politics. Second, they claim skills they hardly acquired when they started awarding themselves hurried 2 or 3 year degrees in Shona to the extent that they cannot distinguish English sounds properly such as 'snacks' and 'snakes'. A Zimabwean professor is equivalent to a grade 12 Zambian school leaver, period. Clearly, Zimbabweans are too junior even to comment on issues of proper colleges and Universities; they never learnt from Smith what colleges and Universities are all about in the first place. What they also forget is that Zambia used brains to defeat the British as early as 1964 without using violence-a fit that Zimbabweans can never understand at all. In their case, they burn buttocks of their own women and children in search of a political solution! This is not intelligent! No, this isn't clever. But typically, no one claims any responsibility in such tortures in Zimbabwe. It is actually because of this lack of brains that Zimbabweans took such a long time to get freedom from a handicapped one-eyed English man called Ian Smith even where a smaller entity like Malawi was able to use rural brains to get freedom after the federation. So what is intelligence?

    No, John, thanks for your failed advice but no thank you; you Zimbabweans do not qualify even to essay a mere opinion on what is going on in Zambia if not the rest of Africa; this discourse is just beyond you and your Shaka cousins down South.
    Unfortunately for you,Zambia is beyond you and so you can't have it!

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  39. John Cena's English is typically Zimbabwean: assumed right but see the errors in spellings and grammar. By the way, is it 'Chinena' or 'Cena'? which ever way this 'chinena' or 'Cena' stinks big time.

    Listen John, if Zimbabweans were smart and intelligent as you purport, they would not have ruined their economy as they have done, always begging for neighbours to solve very simple problems. Worse, Cena and your Zimbabwean puppets are as ungrateful as you were after independence in 1980 to Zambians. In fact analysts have argued that if fate can ever punish a people for being ungrateful to the Zambians who kept them in Mandevu and Mugabe himself at Chalimbana, then Zimbabweans have harvested what they sowed in the xenophobic attacks of South Africa. They are rude even as they spend sleepless nights in the empty corridors of Lusaka city centre all because Mugabe squandered their money in the hope that Britain will give him some more money to blow up! Zimbabweans smell the coffee. Stop living on promissory notes. How careless and irresponsible! Why can't you for once begin to think logically? Vote Mugabe out. Be certain of what it is you want and quit your excitement of hoping that Zambia will fall like you.

    Look, John, you cannot compare Sata to any feeble brains that have been produced in Zimbabwe. We simply do not belong to the same class of democracy and thinking. First Zimbabweans are children in politics. Second, they claim skills they hardly acquired when they started awarding themselves hurried 2 or 3 year degrees in Shona to the extent that they cannot distinguish English sounds properly such as 'snacks' and 'snakes'. A Zimabwean professor is equivalent to a grade 12 Zambian school leaver, period. Clearly, Zimbabweans are too junior even to comment on issues of proper colleges and Universities; they never learnt from Smith what colleges and Universities are all about in the first place. What they also forget is that Zambia used brains to defeat the British as early as 1964 without using violence-a fit that Zimbabweans can never understand at all. In their case, they burn buttocks of their own women and children in search of a political solution! This is not intelligent! No, this isn't clever. But typically, no one claims any responsibility in such tortures in Zimbabwe. It is actually because of this lack of brains that Zimbabweans took such a long time to get freedom from a handicapped one-eyed English man called Ian Smith even where a smaller entity like Malawi was able to use rural brains to get freedom after the federation. So what is intelligence?

    No, John, thanks for your failed advice but no thank you; you Zimbabweans do not qualify even to essay a mere opinion on what is going on in Zambia if not the rest of Africa; this discourse is just beyond you and your Shaka cousins down South.
    Unfortunately for you,Zambia is beyond you and so you can't have it!

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  40. hey, that was a good lecture to this ungrateful creature who disguises himself/herself as John cena. Pathetic indid.

    well so far it seems the coin has turned, according to http://www.zambiaelections.org MMD is now leading. Lets c were we go from here. fingers crossed and PC locked to this site!

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  41. hey, that was a good lecture to this ungrateful creature who disguises himself/herself as John cena. Pathetic indeed.

    well so far it seems the coin has turned, according to http://www.zambiaelections.org MMD is now leading. Lets c were we go from here. fingers crossed and PC locked to this site!

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  42. Sata is a thug and a bully.

    one can observe the behavior of his drunken kaponyas in the major towns.

    he bullied his way into his own party, before they even had a chance to nominate him. now his bullying his way into Zambian parliament. He even said he wont accept defeat...

    great! this is exactly the kind of power hungry tyrant leader Africa needs more of.

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  43. I hope the next govt will embrace us the youth, by giving us opportunities too, not just appointing old fellows.
    I also hope the vice president will be a woman. we have enough capable women in Zambia.

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  44. Hats off to "Anonymous" post for a TIMELY and TRUTHFUL reminder to "Ignorant" John Cena!! Anonymous, this was an EXCELLENT Lecture in just about everything: e.g. Political History of Southern Africa (How Zambins liberated the region almost single handedly!), Political Science in general, Anthropology, Economics and yes, International Relations!! Keep it up Anonymous! And to you my fellow Zambians, please stand up for what is right... Don't give chance to the likes of Ignorant John Cena to distort our record. Zambia has a higher literacy rate than Zimbabwe, and we received the freedom of education earlier than Zimbabwe. And more importantly John, you are able to post a blog (wherever you are) because of Zambia's enormous and unwavering investment in your FREEDOM! ...which undoubtedly made you get in a classroom. So please be grateful.

    Regarding your concern, does typographical errors make anybody dull? Obiviouly NOT! That's we have proofreaders. But this blog is not about writing lessons in English... Anybody is free to post in any language they feel comfortable with!! That's why some folks combine English and our local languages. Some expressions are better comunicated in our local languages. That's probably the part you DO NOT know... some words are NOT in English!! And by the way, we are VERY proud to have so many local languages and no one claims superiority. Isn't that wonderful!! So if you don't know any of the Zambian local languages, sorry buddy, go back to school... Let me turn to the issue at hand, 2008 Elections in Zambia.

    John, look at the map of Southern Africa and tell me which country You Zimbabweans have helped politically or economically? The answer: NONE. Why?? How many Presidents have ruled Zimbabwe since Zambians liberated you from the hands of Ian Smith? The answer: NONE! Has Mugabe done a good job? Well, you answer that one - the writing is all over the wall... You Zimbabweans are back in Zambia AGAIN (and other countries)precisely because YOU don't measure up to Zambians! You DO NOT KNOW how and HAVE FAILED to use the power of the Vote! So who is more intelligent between Zambians and Zimbabweans??

    John, Intelligence is much more than being able to spell words correctly on a blog!! Please go find out what INTELLIGENCE really constitutes. and while out there, please look up WISDOM too. And my advice is that grab both of them as your life lines.

    Now let me tell you this John: Zambians know how to resolve their problems. Zambia is among the most peaceful nations because we know how to deal with our issues intelligently and we'll keep it that way. Whatever happens in this 2008 elections Zambia will not go up in flames! We understand that every candidate on the ballot has some strengths and weaknesses. Thankfully, we always try to work with the candidate's positive attributes to push and keep our beloved country, Zambia, on the right track. And when that leader decides to go against public preferences, we simply open the door for that person to go out using the ballot paper - just the same way we bring them in!! And we have done this several times, John. It's not complicated at all. That's how clever Zambians are!!

    So please help your country to get back on track by learning from us. We have all the examples you need from bad and good times to proper civil society engagement. And if you are really a Zimbabwean you DON'T even need a visa to go to Zambia. So why don't you hop in the SUNSHINE State (Zambia in the Sun!) and learn onsite. Please carry some billion Zim dollars for this training because this time we're not going to offer free tuition like we did before!!

    Finally, I just want to end by saying, John be grateful to people who have saved and served you along the way... Zambians deserve your respect and appreciation. Never bite the finger that feeds you...

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  45. Oh! by the way, John, I forgot to give you a website where you can see for yourself how transparent our elections are. Please go to www.zambiaelections.org and enjoy yourself. We are not like you Zinmbabweans who hold the election results until your President tell you when to release what the people have said. I don't know what to call that... Maybe you can enlight us about it. Congrats Zambians for being peaceful and on top of things! Great job guys!!

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